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Post by lostheroes on Apr 11, 2014 17:27:31 GMT
In accordance with NPO's recent decree against poaching (link below), I would like to bring to the G10's attention the issue of poaching. Should there be any universal G10 stance against poaching? If so, what should it be? If against, what should G10 nations do in the case of poaching? As with the other G10 lobby threads, this thread also exists to ask members of all alliances of their opinions to give the representatives of their alliances some idea of how their alliance members feel about this issue. NPO imperial decree forum.project-terra.com/index.php?/topic/9730-imperial-decree-from-the-new-pacific-order/#entry107680
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Post by matthew on Apr 11, 2014 17:32:26 GMT
This is an interesting issue, I will take it to the table of the G10 and keep you posted on the developments. Thank you for your contribution lostheroes
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Apr 20, 2014 4:40:22 GMT
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Post by Fox on Apr 20, 2014 4:40:22 GMT
So were making laws now? Oh boy....
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Post by lostheroes on Apr 20, 2014 14:18:19 GMT
I don't think a G10 wide condemnation of poaching really qualifies as a law, because that's really what this amounted to...
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Apr 20, 2014 20:13:19 GMT
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Post by Fox on Apr 20, 2014 20:13:19 GMT
Honestly, the G10 doesn't need to be a police force.
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Post by lostheroes on Apr 20, 2014 20:33:26 GMT
It doesn't need to be, and I don't think it will be. However, if there is an inter-alliance issue such as poaching, wouldn't it be better for an inter-alliance group be best fit to solve it or deal with it?
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Post by britanniae on Apr 20, 2014 20:57:55 GMT
Like Lostheroes said the G10 isn't really a Police Force, its not even like the UN security Council, the G10 in short is a way for the alliances to maintain a diplomatic channel to other alliances and allow for mediation over disputes that members have.
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Apr 20, 2014 21:04:09 GMT
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Post by Fox on Apr 20, 2014 21:04:09 GMT
Not at all. Alliances, the top ten especially should be perfectly capable of managing themselves. Poaching is an issue confined to the two parties involved. What does the G10 have to do with poaching? Im starting to get really confused on what the G10 even is. It doesn't seem to have a defined purpose but its considering making rules/norms/laws and isn't being transparent. If the G10 can make a global stance on poaching, it can make a stance on any other war related issue. I have no idea what's being discussed behind these walls but a United Nations style organization didn't work last time. Which is what those G10 is appearing to be. How can we do the same thing multiple times and expect a different outcome?
I really can't say much else until this organization can clearly define itself. As I simply do not know
Im following the G10 from the view of the general public and it makes no sense. I made a report about it and had nothing to report other than the criticism we've all seen. Because that is all I can find.
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Post by lostheroes on Apr 20, 2014 21:25:55 GMT
Not at all. Alliances, the top ten especially should be perfectly capable of managing themselves. Poaching is an issue confined to the two parties involved. What does the G10 have to do with poaching? Im starting to get really confused on what the G10 even is. It doesn't seem to have a defined purpose but its considering making rules/norms/laws and isn't being transparent. If the G10 can make a global stance on poaching, it can make a stance on any other war related issue. I have no idea what's being discussed behind these walls but a United Nations style organization didn't work last time. Which is what those G10 is appearing to be. How can we do the same thing multiple times and expect a different outcome? I really can't say much else until this organization can clearly define itself. As I simply do not knowIm following the G10 from the view of the general public and it makes no sense. I made a report about it and had nothing to report other than the criticism we've all seen. Because that is all I can find. I'm not saying the top ten alliances are unable to manage themselves, but rather as poaching affects all alliances it only makes sense for all alliances to have some sot of policy in regards to poaching. The G10 is an easy way to reach out to the largest alliances to produce a similar policy in regards to poaching. Jesse stated in the decree, "We encourage all of Terra's alliances to also condemn poaching and to promote reasonable and respectful recruitment policies on Terra," thus the G10 is perfect platform to condemn poaching. Until now, the G10 seems to have been just an opening for diplomatic channels, however, I do agree that the representatives of the G10 should come up with an accurate definition of the G10 itself. I read your FJ report. I have mixed feeling about it. It convinced me to support a complete definition of the G10. However, I think you misunderstood Corn's response to Grillick about the VF. Corn' response meant the G10 is for the G10 alliances , not the G10 is for the VF, as I think you were criticizing.
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Apr 20, 2014 21:48:23 GMT
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Post by Fox on Apr 20, 2014 21:48:23 GMT
I don't think a G10 stance is necessary. I think individual alliances should have policies. I really don't think the G10 should start delving into enforcing policies on other alliances at all. Individual alliances can work together if they so choose, bit when you start making and enforcing policies made by the top ten AAs, you really start to annoy the rest of the game.
As for the report, I was actually saying that Corn was implying the G10 is for G10 members. I should have worded that better.
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Post by lostheroes on Apr 20, 2014 22:17:31 GMT
I don't think a G10 stance is necessary. I think individual alliances should have policies. I really don't think the G10 should start delving into enforcing policies on other alliances at all. Individual alliances can work together if they so choose, bit when you start making and enforcing policies made by the top ten AAs, you really start to annoy the rest of the game. As for the report, I was actually saying that Corn was implying the G10 is for G10 members. I should have worded that better. Do you think that G10 can be used as a platform to discuss such issue and encourage other alliances to adopt certain policies? Then I apologize the "its" confused me.
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Apr 20, 2014 22:35:41 GMT
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Post by Fox on Apr 20, 2014 22:35:41 GMT
Sure. As long as it doesn't become a police force. I was assuming it would be focused on economics, given the name.
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Post by lostheroes on Apr 21, 2014 0:10:04 GMT
I do believe they are discussing economics, as per the inter-alliance relations and trade being moved in to the convention room.
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