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Post by Regnum on Apr 11, 2014 3:11:03 GMT
I can't be the only progressive conservative here. Anyone else interested? The socialists are already beginning to organize, we might as well do so too. |
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Post by ctalnh on Apr 11, 2014 9:17:13 GMT
Hey regnum how are you doing?
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Post by The Campbell Nation on Apr 11, 2014 14:52:44 GMT
So tell me, what does the centre-right bloc plan to do about the other group I'm thinking of joining the commie menace?
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Post by lostheroes on Apr 11, 2014 22:43:20 GMT
What kind of policies does the centre-right bloc how to accomplish?
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Post by britanniae on Apr 12, 2014 18:14:54 GMT
Well Regnum I'm in!
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Post by Regnum on Apr 13, 2014 23:15:40 GMT
What kind of policies does the centre-right bloc how to accomplish? Institute sensible market policies that combine economic liberalism with sensible levels of regulation; support humanitarian interventionism as a bare minimum; keep socialists out of power; etc, etc. |
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Post by lostheroes on Apr 13, 2014 23:44:02 GMT
So in terms of PT, I assume you endorse larger trade spheres and lower tariffs, and are mostly against war except in the case of self-defence?
What do you think the alliance tax rate should be? (How high/low should it be? Should it be a flat rate/fixed tax/progressive tax/regressive tax?)
How much of the VF's money should be loaned to other VF nations? And who should those nations be?
Sorry if this seems like 20 questions, I'm just trying to gauge what the bloc's platform is/will be.
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Post by Regnum on Apr 14, 2014 2:36:22 GMT
1.So in terms of PT, I assume you endorse larger trade spheres and lower tariffs, 2. and are mostly against war except in the case of self-defence? 3. What do you think the alliance tax rate should be? (How high/low should it be? Should it be a flat rate/fixed tax/progressive tax/regressive tax?) 4. How much of the VF's money should be loaned to other VF nations? And who should those nations be? Sorry if this seems like 20 questions, I'm just trying to gauge what the bloc's platform is/will be. 1. Correct. Personally, I oppose the existence of tariffs entirely, but obviously that's not something we can or should mandate at an alliance level. I would support lower tariffs regionwide though. 2. Wrong. I'm a humanitarian interventionist and believe that war can be justified to end things like genocide or especially flagrant human rights abuses. 3. Not sure on exact percentages, but it should be mildly progressive, and the tax brackets should be based on the nation's per capita income, not its total GDP. 4. A few percent, mostly to the poorer nations but also to wealthier nations who are working on projects beneficial to the region as a whole. |
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Post by ctalnh on Apr 14, 2014 14:13:42 GMT
Fuck I am totally gonna get invaded by my own region.
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Post by The Campbell Nation on Apr 14, 2014 14:36:07 GMT
Fuck I am totally gonna get invaded by my own region. It's an alliance, not a region, silly. And quite possibly. In all seriousness, the policies listed seem fairly reasonable. Likely I'll be voting as an independent for the first election or two, but your policies seem well thought out, so I may get back to you. |
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Post by lostheroes on Apr 14, 2014 14:45:20 GMT
Fuck I am totally gonna get invaded by my own region. Assuming you don't rise to power. Also, Regnum how do you think the war spoils should be distributed? |
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Post by ctalnh on Apr 14, 2014 15:01:17 GMT
Fuck I am totally gonna get invaded by my own region. Assuming you don't rise to power. Also, Regnum how do you think the war spoils should be distributed? Yeah not really I don't see that happening anytime soon. |
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Post by Regnum on Apr 14, 2014 16:44:38 GMT
Fuck I am totally gonna get invaded by my own region. Your nation commits genocide, and/or flagrant human rights abuses far beyond what is typical? Then yes, it is possible. My advice: don't commit genocide or have flagrant human rights abuses. |
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Post by Regnum on Apr 14, 2014 16:45:31 GMT
Fuck I am totally gonna get invaded by my own region. Assuming you don't rise to power. Also, Regnum how do you think the war spoils should be distributed? I would support the nations that fought the war getting a larger share than the others, but everyone getting a share. (proportional to total GDP, not per capita income) |
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Post by lostheroes on Apr 14, 2014 17:18:23 GMT
Interesting, I'll probably join later. I want to see some actual policies after the government is established.
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Post by The Campbell Nation on Apr 14, 2014 18:21:06 GMT
Fuck I am totally gonna get invaded by my own region. Your nation commits genocide, and/or flagrant human rights abuses far beyond what is typical? Then yes, it is possible. My advice: don't commit genocide or have flagrant human rights abuses. So what qualifies as a "typical" human rights abuse? Will my secret police get me invaded? What about all that business that goes on at the Ministry of Truth? |
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Post by Regnum on Apr 14, 2014 21:33:07 GMT
Your nation commits genocide, and/or flagrant human rights abuses far beyond what is typical? Then yes, it is possible. My advice: don't commit genocide or have flagrant human rights abuses. So what qualifies as a "typical" human rights abuse? Will my secret police get me invaded? What about all that business that goes on at the Ministry of Truth? The specifics would depend on each individual situation of course, but basically this: if you are actively killing your own people, say hello to the VF military. |
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Post by ctalnh on Apr 15, 2014 5:10:59 GMT
So what qualifies as a "typical" human rights abuse? Will my secret police get me invaded? What about all that business that goes on at the Ministry of Truth? The specifics would depend on each individual situation of course, but basically this: if you are actively killing your own people, say hello to the VF military. Yeah becuase fuck self determination. |
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Post by Regnum on Apr 15, 2014 6:08:50 GMT
The specifics would depend on each individual situation of course, but basically this: if you are actively killing your own people, say hello to the VF military. Yeah becuase fuck self determination. "Self determination" does not give you the right to slaughter your own people. Human rights trump national sovereignty. Also, it's pretty hard for the people to self-determine their future as a nation when they are being slaughtered by their very own government. |
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Post by ctalnh on Apr 15, 2014 8:35:50 GMT
Yeah becuase fuck self determination. "Self determination" does not give you the right to slaughter your own people. Human rights trump national sovereignty. Also, it's pretty hard for the people to self-determine their future as a nation when they are being slaughtered by their very own government. Its their right to go to civil war for their rights. You shouldn't have the right to choose what others do for them. |
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